They stopped short. Which means to me that they decided to not push their luck. I also have a feeling there was a strong deterrent that we haven't heard about yet.
At this point in time, Harris is 13 million shy of the Biden 2020 popular vote.
This is accurate but anecdotal info:
Greg Stenstrom who has watch dogged Delaware County PA reported to Emerald Robinson from the county when the polls closed. He said 90,000 mail ballots were sent out and 70,000 were returned….they officially counted 50,000 ballots at 75% Harris and 25% Trump in Delaware county.
The most Harris could receive at this percentage would be 52,500. In 2020 Biden’s final total ‘by mail’ in Delaware CO was 102,000 plus. Harris got half that amount. If that trend followed in all PA counties…this might indicate they drastically modified the scheme with absentee ballots, and may have been working internally with the black boxes.
Sure looks like you have been thinking about this!!! Thank you millions of times over! I feel like sending you flowers. Congratulations on delivering A Lot!
Although there is much to celebrate right now, we can't forget that the voter rolls are only one of many "government controlled" databases that are corrupted beyond repair. We have got to cross reference the voter rolls with the actual county property records. With all the questionable "refinances," transfers and tax liens there is yet another Big mess to look into. Most importantly is to elect qualified officials. I have seen some County Clerks and Assessors that I wouldn't trust with a lunch order. We need to pay these officials well so there is motivation to do an excellent job.
I hope we eventually hold onto our physical voter identification card just as we hold onto our IDs and titles to vehicles understanding how valuable they are to us.
That's a really tough question! I am having extreme "allergic reactions" to electronics these days. People have made a Mess! I honestly wouldn't do anything until I talked to the man who is either an owner, spokesperson, or owner and spokesperson for Home Title Lock. He has served time for stealing houses via electronics (actually he was after cash not houses). I don't like the thought of having anything "personal" at a national level that's hitched to electronics. Having my information open to the nation...I can't handle the mail now! Somehow I get these letters "We know you are an old lady. How is your hearing? Boy! do we have something for you!" Or, "We know you and you family are getting up there. We can help with your family's burials!" The most egregious are the letters from AZ asking me if I want to sell the property I sold 5 years ago. I was flooded with campaign mailings! I am still wearing my floaties.
We pay good tax dollars for city planners, official record keeping, infrastructure and you go into these offices and the clerks haven't a clue as to what they administrate over because it is in a neat humming box that they are not responsible for. Exasperating!
I agree that all aspects of elections' require utmost security of data. At the same time, voter roll lists are public information. Squaring that circle is a conundrum in an electronic age alongside the presence of skilled hackers. Where there's a will to protect certain personal, e.g., "property rights" info, there IS a way to safeguard those rights with respect to public voter registration information. No one in a position of responsibility / accountability has yet acted towards devising a solution.
I endorse all Andrew's ideas for improving security of our elections. I'd also support a routine and short-length expiration of existing voter rolls to be followed by manual, in-person voter re-registration; and hand-counting of paper ballots with counts to be completed by end of a one-day voting system.
Dr Andrew begins at the beginning; as it should be.
Two days after the election and the “Outlaw” West is still counting votes. AZ, NV, have still not called the race for President. CA has counted slightly more than half its ballots. Election Farce, which this is, is the residue of Election Fraud.
And get rid of machines. Make more people a part of the election process by transparently hand counting.
Having voter rolls completely transparent and online is a good thing, except for those in judge positions, intelligence communities, prison workers, law enforcement, etc. whose lives would be exposed to criminals who would seek them out either for pressuring them or eliminating them.
We need to be able to very clearly delineate between residential properties and ... everything else, where you're NOT supposed to be able to vote from.
Getting rid of mail-in ballots is a big thing! I think every other country has gotten rid of them.
Make voter ID and the corresponding assigned voter roll number as thorough and strict as getting a US passport. We all know the games the DMV play especially in NYS where there is one political party rule. States should have to follow a federal outline on how to vette U.S. and state citizens and be held accountable. It’s seems pretty simple! Let’s hope the newly elected leaders can get it done before the first years months long vacations are over and before the midterm elections!
Looks like an excellent plan for fixing the voter roll problem(s). Now, how do we make this in its entirety an action agenda for the new administration? Anyone?
Perhaps a cabinet level task force, perhaps w/ Dr. Paquette overseeing.
Maybe... but constitutionally, it seems to me for actions to be a responsibility of either the Legislative branch of Congress or of individual states' legislatures; which sure sounds messy. I'd love to see more coherence and uniform processes among the states' election laws. Without better uniformity and coherence of states' processes, general elections have proven to impede civil rights of citizens' franchise.
Thought these are great ideas. I had thought of few things: An error correction code and perhaps a redundancy check (in line with the suggestions in the article) and adding information would make cheating a great deal clumsier. I spoke to one of our legislators here in New Hampshire about just implementing some of the more basic fixes than these, and her take was that the task would require 'very heavy lifting.'
What do you make of the vast difference in vote totals between 2020 and 2024?
They stopped short. Which means to me that they decided to not push their luck. I also have a feeling there was a strong deterrent that we haven't heard about yet.
The Lone Raccoon warned them not to try:
https://x.com/FSociety_1942/status/1853270126038069350
Agree! Our numbers are short of 2020.
At this point in time, Harris is 13 million shy of the Biden 2020 popular vote.
This is accurate but anecdotal info:
Greg Stenstrom who has watch dogged Delaware County PA reported to Emerald Robinson from the county when the polls closed. He said 90,000 mail ballots were sent out and 70,000 were returned….they officially counted 50,000 ballots at 75% Harris and 25% Trump in Delaware county.
The most Harris could receive at this percentage would be 52,500. In 2020 Biden’s final total ‘by mail’ in Delaware CO was 102,000 plus. Harris got half that amount. If that trend followed in all PA counties…this might indicate they drastically modified the scheme with absentee ballots, and may have been working internally with the black boxes.
Sure looks like you have been thinking about this!!! Thank you millions of times over! I feel like sending you flowers. Congratulations on delivering A Lot!
Although there is much to celebrate right now, we can't forget that the voter rolls are only one of many "government controlled" databases that are corrupted beyond repair. We have got to cross reference the voter rolls with the actual county property records. With all the questionable "refinances," transfers and tax liens there is yet another Big mess to look into. Most importantly is to elect qualified officials. I have seen some County Clerks and Assessors that I wouldn't trust with a lunch order. We need to pay these officials well so there is motivation to do an excellent job.
I hope we eventually hold onto our physical voter identification card just as we hold onto our IDs and titles to vehicles understanding how valuable they are to us.
"We have got to cross reference the voter rolls with the actual county property records."
Could this be incorporated into the Data Validation tool/s that Andrew mentions?
That's a really tough question! I am having extreme "allergic reactions" to electronics these days. People have made a Mess! I honestly wouldn't do anything until I talked to the man who is either an owner, spokesperson, or owner and spokesperson for Home Title Lock. He has served time for stealing houses via electronics (actually he was after cash not houses). I don't like the thought of having anything "personal" at a national level that's hitched to electronics. Having my information open to the nation...I can't handle the mail now! Somehow I get these letters "We know you are an old lady. How is your hearing? Boy! do we have something for you!" Or, "We know you and you family are getting up there. We can help with your family's burials!" The most egregious are the letters from AZ asking me if I want to sell the property I sold 5 years ago. I was flooded with campaign mailings! I am still wearing my floaties.
We pay good tax dollars for city planners, official record keeping, infrastructure and you go into these offices and the clerks haven't a clue as to what they administrate over because it is in a neat humming box that they are not responsible for. Exasperating!
I agree that all aspects of elections' require utmost security of data. At the same time, voter roll lists are public information. Squaring that circle is a conundrum in an electronic age alongside the presence of skilled hackers. Where there's a will to protect certain personal, e.g., "property rights" info, there IS a way to safeguard those rights with respect to public voter registration information. No one in a position of responsibility / accountability has yet acted towards devising a solution.
I endorse all Andrew's ideas for improving security of our elections. I'd also support a routine and short-length expiration of existing voter rolls to be followed by manual, in-person voter re-registration; and hand-counting of paper ballots with counts to be completed by end of a one-day voting system.
Bingo!
Very solid recommendations. Only bad operators would complain.
Dr Andrew begins at the beginning; as it should be.
Two days after the election and the “Outlaw” West is still counting votes. AZ, NV, have still not called the race for President. CA has counted slightly more than half its ballots. Election Farce, which this is, is the residue of Election Fraud.
And get rid of machines. Make more people a part of the election process by transparently hand counting.
Having voter rolls completely transparent and online is a good thing, except for those in judge positions, intelligence communities, prison workers, law enforcement, etc. whose lives would be exposed to criminals who would seek them out either for pressuring them or eliminating them.
We need to be able to very clearly delineate between residential properties and ... everything else, where you're NOT supposed to be able to vote from.
Getting rid of mail-in ballots is a big thing! I think every other country has gotten rid of them.
I agree, though I'm only talking about voter rolls here.
Make voter ID and the corresponding assigned voter roll number as thorough and strict as getting a US passport. We all know the games the DMV play especially in NYS where there is one political party rule. States should have to follow a federal outline on how to vette U.S. and state citizens and be held accountable. It’s seems pretty simple! Let’s hope the newly elected leaders can get it done before the first years months long vacations are over and before the midterm elections!
What do you think about also giving each voter a unique cryptographic “hash” that only he/she has and is not reversible?
(See tinyURL.com/AboutHashes for some further explanation.)
I'd ask you all to share this far and wide.
Let's get this conversation viral.
Looks like an excellent plan for fixing the voter roll problem(s). Now, how do we make this in its entirety an action agenda for the new administration? Anyone?
Perhaps a cabinet level task force, perhaps w/ Dr. Paquette overseeing.
Maybe... but constitutionally, it seems to me for actions to be a responsibility of either the Legislative branch of Congress or of individual states' legislatures; which sure sounds messy. I'd love to see more coherence and uniform processes among the states' election laws. Without better uniformity and coherence of states' processes, general elections have proven to impede civil rights of citizens' franchise.
A.K.A., Communists will never win another "election"
Thought these are great ideas. I had thought of few things: An error correction code and perhaps a redundancy check (in line with the suggestions in the article) and adding information would make cheating a great deal clumsier. I spoke to one of our legislators here in New Hampshire about just implementing some of the more basic fixes than these, and her take was that the task would require 'very heavy lifting.'
Nice picture of you...
Dream on bro, I m afraid we ll never see it